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Nightingale Actault
The Night Crew
The Night Crew Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:31:00 -
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The reason we all love wormholes is because they're unpredictable and "dangerous". Being able to create a new wormhole at will is largely defeating the reason most people live in wormhole space.
There are ideas being thrown about of increased wandering wormholes that I feel is more akin to what the community is actually reaching towards. Ones that have differing mass and time variables than the existing connections so as to increase the unpredictability without making them completely random. |
Nightingale Actault
The Night Crew
The Night Crew Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.14 16:23:00 -
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Haseo Antares wrote:No.
I would however like to see a deployable structure that generates a pseudo WH and signature. It should look and act like a WH until someone attempts to activate it. Upon activation it will nuet, web, smartbomb, even ransom and trash talk its target (in local) until either it is destroyed or the target is dead or out of range.
No need to thank me, I have terrible ideas on a regular basis. I just had an uncontrollable urge to share that one.
Out of all the deployable ideas, I believe that although you may have done this in jest it probably has the most merits.
A deployable that does in fact create a new wormhole signature could have interesting implications. It would need to not show on dscan to prevent it being easily identifiable as such. Likely it would appear as a K162 wormhole to anyone cloaked on grid with it and only show it's true deployable nature once someone was uncloaked on grid with it. |
Nightingale Actault
The Night Crew
The Night Crew Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.14 16:59:00 -
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Changing existing system effects defeats the purpose of having systems with effects. |
Nightingale Actault
The Night Crew
The Night Crew Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.14 18:11:00 -
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People choose to live in systems with effects often specifically for that effect. Introducing something that nullifies their reason for living in that system means that some will simply choose to live in a no effect system instead. I believe Bane said it best, if you are fighting in a system with a different effect than your doctrine, then bring a different doctrine (ie armor for wolfs and shield for pulsars).
If the sole use is to counter the effects of black holes, then why not just continue with the existing mission of changing the effects of black hole systems? |
Nightingale Actault
The Night Crew
The Night Crew Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.14 19:07:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote: few corps will have the right ship doctrine ready.
This is the point I and others are trying to make. Stop just flying armor, get a shield doctrine set up if you plan on sieging a pulsar.
Look at it another way, what makes wormholes unique? System effects!! You don't find them anywhere else in EVE, why take what makes wormholes unique out of the equation? |
Nightingale Actault
The Night Crew
The Night Crew Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.14 20:06:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:If you want the effect to remain unchanged, then you would have to ensure that the new structure was not anchored in your system.
Look at it from another perspective. The structure could allow smaller groups to combat unbreakable RR setups in cataclysmic wormmholes, which may help stop the need for corps to grow bigger...
We're talking about deployables so I believe this remains perfectly within topic :)
In your situation, you're talking about a group fielding an unbreakable RR setup in a cataclysmic, and I assume you are the smaller group who would like to fight this setup. So you're saying that as the smaller group, you are going to take a force into their wormhole, setup this negation device, and guard it through its activation against this other group?
I just don't see it playing out like that. In that situation your force would likely be wiped out before the device could ever activate, and knowing this your smaller group would never choose to go into that engagement.
However, what I do see it being used for, is a much larger group going into a wormhole against a smaller entity who's only hope of survival is clever use of their system effect and using it to negate any chance this smaller entity would have at making it out with their ships. |
Nightingale Actault
The Night Crew
The Night Crew Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.14 20:25:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:You just reaffirmed my point... right? 
I understand your desire to fight. I also understand that I will weigh a situation, and in the case of the unbreakable RR will simply choose not to lead the isk of my corpmates to death. Will I recruit just so that I can break that groups RR, no? I enjoy small gang and will engage when appropriate. |
Nightingale Actault
The Night Crew
The Night Crew Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.14 20:51:00 -
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I would attempt something different within the confines of existing game mechanics if fighting was the only thing motivating me. For instance diverting them to a different area of the system and attempting to catch one of their group before warp. Or I would consider attempting to drag the group into a different system. I would not try to negate their system effect, even with a module to do so. |
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